Adrienne Rich: Online Interviews Essay, Research Paper
from "The
Possibilities of an Engaged Art: An Interview with Adrienne Rich"
by Ruth E. C. Prince
What have been the strongest influences upon
your political beliefs.
Different in different periods. Growing up in segregated Baltimore, before and during
World War II. Sensing the ill-faith, the sheeted silences, of that apart-life long before
I had a language for it. Being at college in a politically contentious period (1947.51).
Meeting other students who were, variously, G.I. Bill vets, refugees from the Holocaust,
participants in NAACP and SDA [Students for Democratic Action]. Taking poetry courses from
F. O. Matthiessen, a self-described socialist. I was pretty apolitical myself at
Radcliffe, so there’s hope for undergraduates who are just watching, as I was, what goes
on.
In my thirties, the Civil Rights movement in the South, the writings of James Baldwin,
Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Jr., the violence of the opposition to the black struggle
for justice and dignity. I began to grasp how racism deforms the racist, turns one into a
person who will kill or persecute out of fear, or permit killing and persecution to be
done in one’s name while leading a genteel life. That movement showed many white Americans
what our society looked like from the perspective of its second-class citizens.
It also modeled the spirit of active participation in social change, infusing in turn the
anti-war movement, the women’s movement, the lesbian/gay movement. That participatory
spirit, critical and activist, is linked to artistic creation in ways I later described
(in What is Found There: Notebooks on Poetry and Politics)–both require the
radical imagination of the not-yet, the what-if. In these movements, and from people I
knew then, I learned the possibilities of an engaged art.
From 1980 on, as Reaganomics opened the way to out-of-control corporate power, I began
turning to history and to Marx’s writings for a different grasp on events. At a time when
Marx was considered a dead letter, I was finding his words very much alive. The sixties
were declared buried, the women’s movement pronounced dead, then the collapse of the
Berlin Wall and the Iron Curtain were hailed as the ultimate victory of democracy. Yet I
saw democracy–in the sense of that participatory spirit, which to survive must always
become more inclusive–shrinking visibly here in the US: the richest becoming richer and
the poor poorer, access to resources accumulating in fewer and fewer hands. This has
influenced how I see both my art and my life.
The arts, a crucial human resource, are hated and mistrusted by capital unless they can be
commoditized. The past two decades have been a hostile, demoralizing time in this country
for anyone who wants to participate in building a more inclusive and hopeful social order,
an artistic life fueled by anything but money. These, too, have been important political
lessons.
Does poetry play a role in social change.
Yes, where poetry is liberative language, connecting the fragments within us, connecting
us to others like and unlike ourselves, replenishing our desire. It’s potentially
catalytic speech because it’s more than speech: it is associative, metaphoric,
dialectical, visual, musical; in poetry words can say more than they mean and mean more
than they say. In a time of frontal assaults both on language and on human solidarity,
poetry can remind us of all we are in danger of losing–disturb us, embolden us out of
resignation.
How has your refusal of the National Medal for the Arts had an impact on your life and
work.
My refusal of the arts medal was immediate and instinctive. My life and work had impact on
the decision more than the other way around. If you are living a certain kind of life,
trying to do certain kinds of work, feeling connected with certain kinds of people,
certain traditions, a decision like that flows naturally from your own premises.
from Radcliffe Quarterly (Fall 1998). Online Source
Michael Klein
from "A Rich Life: Adrienne Rich on Poetry,
Politics, and Personal Revelation"
Boston Pheonix (June 1999)
Q: With The Dream
of a Common Language: Poems 1974-1977, your poems became more political and more
far-reaching. Coming out felt less about disclosure and more about pure revolution. There
was an incredible sense of how that choice affected other people apart from yourself. How
can lesbian poets today, who for the most part are already out with their first book,
become part of American intellectual life the way that you have.
A: The dilemma for a
21-year-old lesbian poet who is already out may well be that so much is already
acknowledged and written about and published. How do you enter those conversations that
are already taking place, and the even wi
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